Highlight Reel...No Instant Replay
How about a recap of last night's Budget Workshop/City Council/Memorial District meeting?
It was at the Memorial Building so there is no video to be run on TV. I believe that they did have some audio recording equipment though.
This was the first budget workshop I have been to so I did not know what to expect. I think the workshop format works well with the public since there is a little more dialog and two way communication.
This is important as demonstrated last night. Several weeks ago, Mr. Jamey Brooks made comments at open forum about the management salaries. When I say management, I'm not just talking about the City Manager but all of the department head managers. Mr. Brooks had some data on other city's salaries. He thought that for our size city and budget that the salaries were excessive.
City Manager, Tom Ristau, got his opportunity to respond last night, stating that the numbers were somewhat misleading. The numbers that Mr. Brooks discussed included all of the benefits, not just salary. I just did a rough calculation and the benefits appear to be about 34% of the salary.
Anyway, my point is that it's too bad that these issues can't be addressed immediately at City Council meetings. It would probably cut down on rumors and mis-information. Both sides hear things that are incorrect and it is frustrating to know that a misconception is going to be hanging out in the universe for at least a couple of weeks.
I hope to have time to discuss some of the other events from last night's meeting at a later time.
Oh, by the way, I don't have a copy of the entire budget yet so I don't know how much salaries are going up. I think some people may have the impression that there aren't going to be any raises except for a deserving one or two employees. Now, this is a misconception because I believe I heard that "there aren't going to be any raises...except for step raises and cost of living raises". I will have to verify this.
posted by Gayle Washburn @ 12:30 PM
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MISINFORMATION? YOUR THE PRINCESS OF MISINFORMATION! THIS IS ONE REASON WHY I LOATHE THIS BLOG!
Then why do you come back?
You are becoming very annoying.
You make me so sick, I need to express myself.
All you do is yell and accuse Gayle of misinformation. If it wasn't for Gayle, this Blog would not be here.
I don't see you making any effort.
Only discusting threats.
This is Gayle's site, she pays for it. Gayle keeps it up. At least be a decent human being and spell her name correctly, another misinformation.
Campbell!!
Get a life.
Rodger you are funny.MISINFORMATION
is what you do for a living.By the
look and size of your office,Ill have to say...not very well.
i know campbell personally and he would not waste his time on this blog. campbell has done so much good for our town and this is how you treat him, all you people are just wicked and sick .
goodbye take rodge with you.
apparently you don't know him very well,sorry.
CCU..
Figures you would say things like that Cecilia Uber (ccu).
Little do you know about some people.
You say you know Campbell personally, then give him a call and ask him.
Everyone knows Campbell has a mouth on him and that's him yelling here on the Blog.
You would know wouldn't you?
Just one question here with all this talk of Rodger Cambell. DO YOU KNOW HIM PERSONALLY? It is easy to sit at home and make statements about someone, but do you actually know what you are talking about or is simply conjecture and hypothesis based on interpretations of information or rumor that cannot be verified or substantiated? Rodger has done a lot of good, he has also done a lot of bad, but is his interest in what is best for Fillmore based on his perception or ideology. It is okay to dissagree with him, that is what this country is all about, but to make blanketed statements about him without substantiation seems, well, childish.
Gayle
Did Campbell's new PAC ever file their end of the year 2006 Report?
What did he call that PAC, " Friends for a Safer Fillmore"?
You posted the link back in March about the reports.
Wonder if it was completed?
Im still curious on Sipes working as a lobbyist. Furman and associates?
Why does the Citizens for reasonable growth ignore this issue? It hard to comprehend.
Anon 8:53
Those who have grown up here or have lived here for a long period of time.
Remember him as a Council person, that sold out our town. Most old Fillmore Citizens call him a Benedict Arnold. Ask some of the old folks here. He sold out our town and continues. If anyone remembers, he barely got through school and was a Mechanic for years. Now he is a consultant????
The Furman & Assoc, no such name!!!
Or your not spelling it correctly.
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Anon 902, good points, but I have spoken to a lot of old time Fillmore residents that are third fourth generation, and depending on who you talk, stories regarding Rodger Cambell vary wildly. Some good some bad, some do not even know who he is. I even heard that he got into a physical fight with another city councilman, I forget his name. I am not sure what to believe, other than to say that people can agree to dissagree. You may not like his perspective and goals, he may not like yours, you both may have completely different agendas, but in the end what is important is how FILLMORE IS IMPACTED, as a result of your actions today and in past history.
My question remains, how many of you have actually spoken to him, the city council, the city staff, versus taking the word of the people you talk with. In my expereince the all of these people are more than willing to have open communications or dialog. Although I am not sure about Rodger Cambell.
You know... I really don't think the screaming caps person is Rodger Campbell. I would however suspect the editor of our lovely local paper. Read his column(s)... then read the tidbits of ALLCAPS.
Too close to call~!
He got into an altercation with
Scott Lee
WHAT A STUPID AD.................
NOW THAT IS FEAR TACTICS TO THE EXTREME.
Roger Campbell sure seems to invoke some emotional responses. Almost as emotional as screaming caps person.
I do not personally know Mr. Campbell so I cannot comment on what he has or hasn't done.
All I know is that he is the head of Friends of Fillmore. Well, I guess I also know that he helped to raise tens of thousands of dollars to oppose myself and Patti Walker in the last election.
I don't know why and I don't necessarily hold it against him. He doesn't have to support me if he doesn't want to.
So, we shouldn't make negative comments and point fingers at someone without evidence or knowledge.
I would suggest that the screaming caps man or woman stand up and identify himself or herself rather than letting Mr. Campbell get blamed for his/her irrational behavior. I'm sure he would appreciate it.
isnt that why you have a option of choosing anonymous?
wasnt this blog set up for the purpose of a city wide dialog? respect all opinions gayle not just the one's who agree with your agenda. the same goes for patty and brian.
he could choose pink face hothead.
5:05 when you get people that would rather YELL,name call,otherwise disrupt this blog,because they dislike a persons
view or the person,no one will listen.Why cant MR ALL CAPS put aside his hate for Gayle or anyone else for that matter.Attacking people is a never ending process.There are many smart people
here.If MR ALL CAPS loves this town,why does he choose to divide it instead of helping it?
I beg to differ. I think it results from Sipes and Gayle,and the other agenda driven groups intruding into the financial affairs of the city, thereby we are tagged with a sore credit score. From the repeat speeches to writing to the editor, this is the result of being a wannabe-investigator.
Wait "intruding into the financial affairs of the city"
I don't get it.Isn't that public record?
Anon 5:05
Shame on you.
Gayle is paying the tab, if you don't like her comments or the way she runs the blog.
Pay for your own blog.
"intruding into the financial affairs of the city"
Give me a break, Where are you from Mars???
That is our Tax money there bucko.
That is Public Record, anyone has the right to review what the City is doing. And anyone has the right to complain. If the money is not spent properly, the public needs to know. Not keep it a secret as City officials have been doing.
Other, I do not believe that Happy Voter was referring to the review of the public documents of the budget. I believe that what he was referring to was the interpretation of those documents that generated theories or hypotheses that were not verified and substantiated, but rather express in the local press or at groups discussions. Only for the public to find out that these theories are in fact not true at all. For example the recent theory that the city staff has saleries that were very high for the size of our city. I have heard time and time again about this. But Gayle just stated that she finally got clarification that 34% of these saleries were for benifits. But the damage was done, the statements about the city staffs salery's cannot be taken back, even with a retraction, as people will not read it, or they will not believe it, or it is not gossip so they will not spread it. That is why accountability for these groups needs to be maintained.
Gayle!!!!
Fantastic Ad, who ever is responsible should be proud of themselves.
It is about time this information is out in the Publics eye.
Sewercide!!! Love it!!!
So glad to read about PERC, the people need to know this. That the City has an Agenda, there are lower cost Plants to be built. Why stay with American Waters when there is a savings to be had.
I read, I think in the Gazette. That Santa Paula has "6" 1 year extensions, not us though. Why??
Oh I just thought of another example, the REFERENDUM. This document was projected to decrease the density in north fillmore, in fact this is what was stated time and time again. Well I am not sure who wrote the referendum, nor what their agenda was, nor how much was paid for it, but who ever wrote it had to have known what it said. Which simply stated was to only undo the city councils decision to adopt the NFSP. That is it, not decrease density, not eliminate 3 story buildings, not do anything else but reverse the councils decision.
This is not what was stated to those that signed the petition though. What they were told was something completely different.
Anon 6:35,
Since you seem to know what happy voter means, does that mean your happy voter?
And read carefully.
Gayle said she did a rough draft of figures. Again you Campbell cronies are twisting Gayles words.
And there has never been an apology for this mistruth. In fact the group involved only started yelling for saving us 50,000 dollars by accepting their referendum. They wanted to have a vote, even though they got their wish. So I ask you does this makes any sense, were is the accountability for this, were is the public bashing for this?
anon 6:42 PM
Get your facts straight, AGAIN!!!
It is not twisting words, simply that the public does not read nor understand. Gayle is not a CPA, but she is in the public eye, and thus should be held to a higher level of accountability. Just like any person in the public eye, wether rodger cambell, who you all criticise but when it comes to gayle mistakes she can do no wrong, and this simply is, well childish.
By the way speaking of putting words in one's mouth, I AM NOT HAPPY VOTER. look at our writing styles completely different.
Why don't you tell me he facts, because as far as I am concerned, and since I read the referendum all it did was ask the that the city council reverse its previous decision
Please forgive my earlier post, I meant that the public does not read all that they are presented, only the parts that stand out, and they do not generally understand all the data that they are presented. they count on those that are in the public eye to read everything and let them know what is going on. This has been proven time and time again.
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THE FACTS PRESENTED TO YOU REGARDING OUR CREDIT RATING IS ALARMING! STOP EVADING MY QUESTIONS.
A. LOBBYING FIRM FURMAN AND ASSOCIATES
B. YOU STATED EARLIER THAT "BEING A LOBBYIST IS NOT A BAD THING" BUT THEN YOU STATE THAT CLYDE IS NOT A LOBBYIST.
I'VE PRESENTED THE EVIDENCE , YOU CHOSE TO IGNORE IT. THATS JUST SHAMEFUL.
Shut the hell up dude.
Gayle,
I don’t think it’s realistic to expect an immediate response from city staff or council to accusations that have only a vague resemblance to financial reality. To do so would be foolish and probably inaccurate. Given that Mr. Books did some research, obviously not in depth, and had no real numbers, he didn’t bother to compare apples to apples. Yes, very sad indeed.
As a self proclaimed peace maker with the ability to bring people together, I think he is off to a bad start.
Late to the party
Anonymous, Anonymous &Anonymous
You ask some pretty good questions.
I don't know all the answers.This is the kind of dialog that is needed. As far as the salaries go,
I'm afraid this rests with the city.
I only say that because an unanswered false statement,appears
true. Giving the story time to grow is bad judgment. The City should have immediately corrected the issue.
Your right nobody believes a planed response.Sooner would have been better.
As far as the REFERENDUM I don't know too much about it.All I know is Roy has his name on most projects in town. Developments that seem to be pushed through because our ex city manager works for the developers he dealt with as manager!
Got to admit that stinks.
North Fillmore needs 3 story apartments as much as they need more alleys.Is the City hell bent on this sewer system because Roy has his name on it as well?
Another…
..“because an unanswered false statement, appears
true.”..
When an accusation that is so scattered that you can’t separate the rhetoric from reality easy to answer? How can you respond “immediately” with any creditability?
The responsible reaction would be to take the time to do the detailed homework and get the accurate information to the public – I believe that’s what the city manager did.
When it comes to “facts” vs “accusations”, the city is clearly ahead in the game. Recall anyone?
It’s easy for anyone to accuse a city employee, or elected official of an impropriety, but when doing so, they must have ALL the facts. So far, the “public revolt” has fallen sort in this category.
It's going to be impossible for me to keep up and respond to all of these comments.
5:05 PM What the heck are you talking about?
7:15 PM ...THE FACTS PRESENTED TO YOU REGARDING OUR CREDIT RATING IS ALARMING! STOP EVADING MY QUESTIONS.
What's the question? I read all the caps comments and I don't see a question.
A. LOBBYING FIRM FURMAN AND ASSOCIATES
What about them? I said two or three days ago that when I googled them I just got a website and they had helped El Segundo get $100 million for a recycling plant. What the heck does that have to do with Brian?
I'VE PRESENTED THE EVIDENCE , ummm...what evidence? Do you have a cancelled check or some contract? What are you talking about?
YOU CHOSE TO IGNORE IT. THATS JUST SHAMEFUL.
Please get some help for yourself. If not therapy maybe some rehab.
Salaries: my thoughts...I'm more concerned about the money we are spending on consultants than salaries. The council just approved a $110,000 fee for a traffic study. That would have paid someone's salary and benefits for a year.
We're paying Boyle Engineering millions for being a project manager for sewer plant. We could have hired 10 engineers for what we have paid them.
Do I wish the staff salaries weren't so high? Yes, but only because of our limited resources. Are they excessive for our size town? Probably. They all work very hard - they deserve to make a decent living. But --- there are a lot of people in this town working very hard that deserve to make a decent wage or salary. I would like to see more equitable pay for everyone. Just remember the consultants are where a big chunk of our money is going.
One other point about Tom Ristau. I hear a lot of people say they are angry that Roy Payne is double dipping. They think that we are paying both of them to be the City Manager. If Roy wasn't around I don't think too many would mind Tom's salary.
ANON 9:50
As far as how do you respond...
When someone says "Hey Tom,how come you get paid $196,000 ?
Tom can say with certainty...No,I don't.Also I never disrespected you.I question why you choose to refer to me as another? and you constantly refer to Gayle as GAIL.
As for rest of your rant I wont respond.I feel as though I'm trying to reason with a bitter inbred hillbilly.
Gayle one question, I have read a lot about how you feel that the Rodger and the Developers are lobbying the city council to get this pushed through, yet in this section of the blog you seem to be okay with parsons that work with or represent lobbying entities. Which one is it, are okay with lobbyest or not? I am very confused on this point, especially since so many that support you are very willing to thrash and bash those are lobbying for something they dissagree with, yet if it something they agree with it is acceptable. SO ARE FOR OR AGAINST LOBBYEST? In this instance it seems as though you want your cake and to be able to eat it. Sorry, based on all the rhetoric in this blog that seems well, hypocritical
The other thing that I wanted to point out was that statements in the press or other public information medians can be very damaging even if it untrue and only founded in conjecture and theory. For example what if someone stated that since GAYLE is only interested in reducing densities for all of Fillmore, causing the price of housing to be $700,000.00 or more due to the size of the lot and house, that only upper middle class person can afford the houses. While the persons that comprise the upper middle class are generally cauasians, especially in Ventura county, that Gayle's only interest is in increase the white population for Fillmore. Based on this she must be a member of the KKK or arian nation and true racist. Why else would she want only upper middle class white neighbors.
While this statement is rediculous, people would listen to it and believe it. Other would dismiss it and ignor it. But most importantly the gossipers and truoble makers of this town would spread it.
The accusation is only based on conjecture and truly distorts what is probably NOT the truth, the damage from this type of statement would still indeed be REAL.
In fact I am willing to bet that a lot of the responses to this post will not read the entire post, nor will they understand what I am saying and thus will respond in the only manner they can, a childish, unintellegent convaluted manner. Any one want to take me up on that bet?
This is why when people make statements that are in a position of some public respect they need to have all their ducks in a row and NOT just make blanketed statements.
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anon 8:54
What does dividing this town down racial lines have to do with anything?Nice try.Oh by the way didn't you or your friends vote for English as the official language of Fillmore? how soon they forget.
Correction about Campbell's altercation, it was with Pat Quinn not Scott Lee.
Why did Pat smack him?
He was so annoying and he would not shut up. As everyone knows, he is a know it all.
I am sure there are others out there that can elaborate about Campbell conduct then.
Maybe Mr ALL CAPS could shed some light on the Hackney property?
other said… -10:43
I had no intention of insulting or berating you, just posing a counter view to your opinion. Hillbilly? Tacky & trite but if it makes you feel better, it doesn’t bother me.
Mr. Brooks wasn’t criticizing only Mr. Ristau’s compensation, he went on to cover all, or most, of the senior staff. He cited several examples but never bothered to explain his sources. That should have raised questions about the accuracy of his information. A responsible and prudent supervisor would research, in detail, the accusations before responding and he should respond on behalf of his entire staff. Ristau did that.
IF--- Mr. Ristau was only asked about his own salary and total compensation package, and not that of others, he would have probably responded the same evening.
Late to the party
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I’M AN IDIOT AND UNABLE TO FIND THE SHIFT KEY. CAN YOU SEND HELP? THE PROOF I SPEAK OF WAS DELIVERED VIA THE SPACECRAFT CRANIALRECTUMITIS AND I’VE POSTED VIA MY DOUBLE SECRET CODE ON YOUR BLOG. I SENT YOU THE SUPER SECRET DECODER RING AND YOU HAVE CHOSE TO IGNORE IT.
Well 6:53
Although you are somewhat humorous,
Creative writing is definitely not one of your strong points.Use your decoder ring and figure out why YOU
think your such an Idiot.Can't wait
for the results!
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DO YOU THINK PLACING FULL PAGE ADS IN NEWSPAPERS TO STIR THE PUBLIC UP IS GOING TO APEASE OUR CREDIT RATINGS? YET AGAIN YOU EVADE,EVADE,EVADE MY IMPORTANT QUESTIONS. CCU: YOUR RIGHT ABOUT THESE HIDDEN AGENDA LOBBYISTS. IM SURE HE WILL BE THERE TUESDAY EVENING. THE PEOPLE OF FILLMORE WILL NEVER ELECT CLYDE OR GAIL!
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I APPLAUD YOUR FULL PAGE AD AND ENCOURAGE YOU TO CONTINUE YOUR EFFORTS. IN THE MEANTIME I’LL CONTINUE LOOKING FOR THE SHIFT KEY.
Mr All Caps.
Go back to school.
Your spelling is terrible and insulting to us here.
Again It is "Gayle".
Keep showing your ignorance.
i thought this blog was supposed to be inclusive instead of being exclusive. dialogue was never going to happen as long as gayle and whomever else controls this blogosphere. shame on you all
ccu,
shame on you, for being so selfish.
The dialog is free spirited. So sorry it isn't just on the opine of you and Mr. All Caps.
Of course Gayle is going to run the Blog, I don't see you paying the bill.
Who do you thing pays the bill?
duh, the bill fairy.
Another 641 AM again you completely miss the point, nice try though, AGAIN ONCE SOMETHING IS STATED IN THE PUBLIC IT CANNOT BE TAKEN BACK. IF ONE ASSUMES OR PRESUMES TO MAKE STATEMENTS THAT ARE NOT SUBSTANTIATED THAN THE DAMAGE IS DONE IN THE PUBLIC EYE. Gayle and her groups seem to be very good at deception and tend prove time and time again that their statements are not based on facts but rather conjecture, but the DAMAGE IS DONE. What is the result? A town divided and instead of being solution oriented it is now all about WHO CAN WE BLAME FOR OUR CURRENT SITUATION, and HOW MUCH MONEY CAN WE MAKE THIS CITY SPEND TO RESPOND TO OUR RHETORIC. Just stop it, find feasible and reasonable solutions. Work with the city council and staff to find these solutions. Try to understand the big picture and not your narrow tunnel vision version of reality. WE NEED SOLUTIONS NOT MORE PROBLEMS!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anon 6:48 AM,
The only person whom is trying to divide this town is you.
Why don't you try reason and sit back.
Let the people work, not the Developers. You seem to forget this is the town of the Citizens of Fillmore. How many people who work in City Hall actually live here? Few, a very small percentage. And how many who make the major decisions live here? I would say that percentage is either "0" or in single digits.
Gayle and her committee are residents here. They have every right to stand up and be heard. These decisions are affecting theirs and everyone who lives here lively hood.
ANON6:48
I would like to work with the City.
I find it very hard when they do not listen to the people.I've witnessed the Council reject and over rule the recommendation of their own Planing Department on many projects.I can't express how frustrating this has been.I just can't see the residents of Fillmore sitting back and watching the "build out" of Fillmore from outsiders.How can we TRUST our City when they are lead by the developers and their consultants.It's very hard to trust these people once you hear their double talk,and are aware of the smoke&mirrors tactics
YADA YADA YADA
SEE CAMBELL THATS EXACTLY WHY YOUR SUCH AN ASS WHEN THE TRUTH ABOUT YOU COMES OUT ABOUT YOUR SORRY ASS YOU WILL HAVE ALL THE RESPECT YOU DESERVE YADA
Bring Pat Quinn back
Heart Broken Voter, the point again is for the citizens to work with the city staff and legally elected officials on the city council. NAME CALLING, Public Bashing, statements of conjecture and assumption, and other forms of rhetoric is not WORKING WITH THEM, it is only creating more problems for this city. What I would like to see is a open debate in which open and honest dialog and communication is generated in order to solve problems. Instead of the constant blame. You may dissagree with the city council, you may dissagree with the city staff, heck you may even dissagree with your neighbor, but blame them for your and this city's problems is foolish. If you do not like their decisisions then vote them out.
As for the city staff. Again blame and bashing tactics are used here. Let me ask you this, in a city in which the majority of its population have to travel out of town to work who spends the most time in the city? Answer the CITY STAFF, they spend 8 - 10 hours a day in the city sometimes longer, they eat at our resturants, they use our services, etc... In other words they have a vested interest in this city. If this is not enough, they are constantly scrutinized by constituents. Since this town only generates news about crime, public events and the city staff they have a lot to loose if they screw up. SO WHY WOULD THEY??????? What do they have to gain, everything they do has to be reported because regulations, they cannot pee without someone stated that cost the citizens $.10 to flush the toilet. GIVE ME A BREAK, try to talk with them, see what they have to say, go to city council, planning commision meetings and make your voice heard. Call the city staff if you do not have to go to city hall, do something other than complain, bash, spread mistruths, and conjecture about how better the city would be if only..... That is a waste of everyones time and energy.
Another, excellent points, I cannot argue with how the city council seems to not listen to the planning commission or department. Although I will say that Scott Lee has impressed me. While I like some of the things that Steve has done and states I do not agree with him on a lot of things, I do not believe that Laurie has anything intellegent to say, so I will not go down that road, Cicilia, well enough stated, and Patti, I cannot help but think that she has a hidden agenda and I abosolutely do not trust her.
Another, excellent points, I cannot argue with how the city council seems to not listen to the planning commission or department. Although I will say that Scott Lee has impressed me. While I like some of the things that Steve has done and states I do not agree with him on a lot of things, I do not believe that Laurie has anything intellegent to say, so I will not go down that road, Cicilia, well enough stated, and Patti, I cannot help but think that she has a hidden agenda and I abosolutely do not trust her.
Oh ya one more thing, I have watched the planning and city council meetings on channel 10, and have called the city staff and council members about a lot of things, but I cannot help but notice that the audience is emnpty most nights, and Keven, Bert or Tom state how many letters they recieve on items on the agenda and it is not very many. Maybe Gayle should look into placing more emphasis on actually getting the public more invloved in these meetings so their voice will actually be heard. From what I have seen only about 5 people consistently make comments at the meetings, 5 representing 15000 maybe this why the city council does not listen as much as you all would like
You trust Steve Conaway? Now thats foolish! I trust Steve Conaway like a match to a flame!
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Anon 9:15 AM,
Most of the Statements here are from experience of dealing with City Hall Staff.
They are not:
"NAME CALLING, Public Bashing, statements of conjecture and assumption, and other forms of rhetoric "
I am not being mean about this, this is true and upsetting how the Public is treated.
Have you tried to correspond with Staff at City Hall? I bet not.
Now, it is not that people here on the blog are just per say bashing Staff members. Have you ever thought of the fact that Staff at City Hall have their noses up in the air towards the Public. The Directors or Supervisors treat the Citizens here terribly.
I am not talking about "ALL" just the directors or supervisors, a handful.
But that handful has allot of say with the staff they supervise.
In my dealings with some of these people, they prejudge very nice respected citizens, without knowing or making an effort to know them. If your beliefs or party affiliation is opposite of theirs, they just don't like you and yes they are vulgar towards those people. I mean with the use of "Caustic insulting words" and for no reason at all.
Believe as you may, this is the truth.
Review the last Council meeting May 27. Mr Creason complained that after 2 weeks of formally requesting information, he still did not receive what he asked. Apparently he submitted a FOIA to the City Clerk and was told a 10 day period is what the City is allowed. Okay fine, 14 days later not a response and I might add it was lost. Why? This is a Government facility.
This is a small example.
A great solution is classes on handling Government Documents and request, etiquette and professionalism toward the Public with all staff including Ristau, Barbara Smith, and others attending.
As Marie Wren said at her last Council meeting,"YOU work for US. Our Tax Dollars pay YOUR Salaries".
She spoke very eloquently about that. She too has had problems.
So before you respond to my notes here, review the Council Meetings. Watch or attend them, listen to the Publics comments. That is what never happens, "listen to the Public".
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3:12-----------------------WHEN R U GOING TO GET SOME HELP!?
Anon 3:12PM it is so obvious it is "YOU" who has the agenda.
Just reading the awful scramble of grammar in your questionable sentences.
My God give up!!!
WHAT'S SO QUESTIONABLE? IS IT TRUE OR NOT?
You do not make an sense at all!!!
All you know how to do is insult Gayle.
Give it up!!!!
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WHY ARE YOU AND YOUR SMALL GROUP SO HELLBENT ON NO NEW JOBS, NO NEW HOMES ,LIKE THE MEADOWS, BETTER SCHOOLS AND MOST IMPORTANTLY A FAMILY FRIENDLY CITY?
SCROLL UP, LIKE IVE SAID MY MAIN CONCERNS ARE WITH CLYDE. GAIL KNOWS HOW AND WHY I FEEL THE WAY I DO. I KNOW SHE WILL NEVER WIN THE HEARTS AND MINDS OF THE VOTERS, PLAIN AND SIMPLE.
A good example to your questions is re-read what you write.
Also take a lesson in spelling and grammar or at least right click your mouse for spell check.
When the words are underlined in red, that means you spelled them wrong.
Aonn 3:59PM
Gayle has won the Hearts of more than you know.
The word you need to learn is "HONESTY". I even caped it for you.
I WASNT BLOGGING ABOUT GAIL, ONLY CLYDE. STOP THE MANIPULATIVE COMMENTS. FOCUS ON THE SUBJECT MATTER WHICH IS CLYDE.
anon, I agree
Anon Caps man,
Your pathetic, focus on subject matter not insults.
Gayle & Patti are assets to our community.
They work on Honesty & Truthfulness.
So sorry your work with Deception and Lies.
You watch Gayle will be voted in and your Friends of Fillmore will not win anymore.
WHY IS ALWAYS THE SAME OLD ADAGE OF IF YOU DISAGREE WITH PATTY OR GAYLE OR CLYDE THEN YOU MUST BE ROGER CAMPBELL. I RESPECT CAMPBELL FOR ALL HIS WORK TO BETTER FILLMORE. PATTY DIVIDES ,LIE AND IS SELFFISH. SHE IS RUDE, COLDHEARTED AND IS CARELESS. ENOUGH ON PATTY. IM MORE WORRIED LOBBYIST AND ENVIRONMENTALIST RUNNING FOR OFFICE. SHALL I NAME THE PERSON AGAIN?
I HAVE NOT MADE ONE COMMENT THAT WASNT TRUE.
CLDYE-LOBBYIST
WASHBURN-HIDDEN AGENDA
wasn't patti censored for violating the code of ethics?
It is so easy to pat yourself on your back isn't it, Campbell?
I didn't mention a name, you just divulged whom you are. Figures.
CCU-
YES SHE WAS AND SHOULD BE AGAIN!
And Campbell the Benedict Arnold of Fillmore.
Everyone knows you sold out our town. You don't care about know one here. I wouldn't be surprised if you move in the next 10 years.
CCU was fined by The FPPC.
Why don't you tell the folks why? or should I?
It's on the FPPC website.
what a shameful record.
like linda brewster once stated " patti's ego is bigger than fillmore and piru combined".
FAR WORSE THAN THAT!
CCU
You bash Patti, I find this terrible, being a Commissioner of the Planning Dept.
Why did it take you 4 more months?
Oh this is on the Website of the FPPC
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CORL, CECELIA, ALSO KNOWN AS CECELIA CORL-UBER, SE-91/258, (1994)
87200 One (1) count
$2,000 fine
The Commission issued a Default Decision and Order against Cecelia Corl-Uber, City of Fillmore Planning Commissioner, who failed to timely file her annual Statement of Economic Interests (SEI) covering 1990, filing the SEI over 14 months late. Even after having been interviewed by an enforcement staff investigator, Corl-Uber took almost four additional months before filing the SEI.
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CCU
You shouldn't throw rocks at glass houses
cecelia uber isnt a council member also, patti is though. patti's record is tarnished and according to patti, she would deceive city hall again, and i believe her on this one.
I would ask you what you are talking about...But you wouldn't answer me.Or you would say something stupid or asinine like
YADA YADA YADA,you must still be a Seinfeld fan.
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Blame yourself!
YADA YADA YADA
CENSURE PATTY AGAIN!
Seems you don't like woman.
I understand your right of sexual preference, but please keep it to yourself. Or go back in the closet.
We straight folks don't like these kinds of things forced upon us.
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No go tell your Mommy that!
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like you of all people should talk , ccu.
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