When "Friends" attack...
Well, have you gotten to see the nasty mailer from the "Friends of Fillmore" PAC?
I've gotten phone calls, emails and blog comments from people who are outraged at this vicious attack on Patti Walker. If some were uncertain about Patti in the past, they are changing their votes in support of Patti now. I hope this means that the true nature of our city is going to prevail in this election.
What I mean by that is the fact that most of our citizens are honest, hardworking, generous, caring committed citizens who want the best for their families as well as others. The kind of people who believe in fairness and justice. I think that is what is behind the outrage - the unfairness and below the belt tactics that don't belong in this town!
So, what do you think?
I heard that Linda Roberts gave a splendid rebuke to the "friends" at last night's Chamber debate. Now that is a display of true character. I am very proud of her.
p.s. We hope to get the current PAC filings of the "Friends" to post in the near future. The filing date was October 5th but the City does not have any records for us to date.
posted by Gayle Washburn @ 12:58 PM
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Voters need to remember that the FRIENDS OF FILLMORE PAC IS SOLELY interested in electing candidates that have no back bone, nor a conscience. I believe its a known fact that the Friends of Fillmore Pac is solely interested in electing individuals that will be
"CONTROLABLE AND EASILY SWAYED". My husband and i have attended the planning commission meetings regularly and Diane is very cozy with Campbell , Spitlers and Uber. just to name few.
As we have been saying all along is that Diane McCall is for the status quo. If we really wanna change City Hall , the first step is to elect WALKER /WASHBURN.
This is Fillmore's only choice for a honest, clean government which currently it lacks. Diane McCall , Smedley, Hernandez will only pro-long the the problems that City Hall endures. Yes , we really have a strong choice this year.
STATUS QUO OR HONEST,CLEAN, ACCOUNTABLE GOVERNMENT.
The choice is ours.
yea, i agree with you clairek . city hall is out of control.
the first thing the voters need to do is actually THINK and wonder why this pac despise's patti so much? its called greed and arrogance.
patti and gayle,
any idea if mccall ,smedley and hernandez are involved in this wasteful type of propaganda?
Gayle & Patti,
How was the School Board Forum?
You two missed some exciting moments at the Chamber Forum.
I suggest all who missed the Chamber Forum, watch the reruns.
Especially the closing Statements.
You two missed a Great Closing by Linda Roberts.
I take my hat off to her. That Lady has class.
She brought to the Forum that piece of Trash that was mailed by
The Friends of Fillmore. She even called it,”TRASH”. If I remember correctly she called
the Friends of Fillmore,
the Enemies of Fillmore.
She slammed them, she defended Patti, and she made it clear that Patti researches everything thoroughly. That even though she doesn’t agree with Patti, Patti has the right to her opinion.
She was really great at defending our Small Town Politics and exposing the
"CRUELTY" of That PAC.
The Friends of Fillmore.
The pictures were not flattering at all. Facts don't lie. Records don't re-visit history with personal bias.
Can't support a three story building then two years later say you are against three story buildings. Well I guess you can.
I'm going to IHOP for waffles.
The Friends of Fillmore are so desperate to keep Patti Walker off the City Council.
They tried to trash her and her picture.
Now they have an issue of Copyright Infringement.
Read the Gazette.
Ask Martin Farrell about His Pictures!
I certainly would not like to be a blatherskite.
Clairek.
I am sure you can do justice with this word.
“ Blatherskite “
Be my guest...
gracy: The school board forum was great. All of the candidates were well spoken, dedicated and well educated.
I learned a lot about the school board. I have to admit that I have not been involved in school issues since my son went to school - many years ago. I have a lot of catching up to do.
I'm glad I went because I would not have known enough about the candidates to have made a decision.
Missing the Chamber debate is unfortunate for that reason but there will be another debate next week hosted by the League of Women Voters.
Too bad I missed Linda Roberts's speech. I also heard that some of the other candidates had been given the questions in advance so they could be better prepared. Evidently that has occurred in the past.
I hope we can come up with a better system by the next election.
Blatherskite! Now that is a word that I have never heard.
anonymous: Why not? Maybe the concept you were pitched didn't look like a hulking eyesore in the pretty drawings. Are YOU for those three story buildings?
Gayle...
Yes, it is a real word.
"Blatherskite"
Mr. Bill O'Reilly had the word of the day. I heard it several months ago on his Show.
I will let Clairek have the privilege to define it.
She is very good.
I would like to see how she also uses, "Blatherskite" as examples. I am confident Claire will do a good job.
TODAY'S WORD 10-14-2006
BLATHERSKITE- NOUN
* NON-SENSE TALKER(S), UNFORMIDIBLE
EXAMPLES:
1. FRIENDS OF FILLMORE PAC
2. CECELIA CORL-UBER
3. DIANE MCCALL
4. KEN SMEDLEY
5. STEVE CONAWAY
6. CECELIA CUEVAS
Clairek...
I knew you would do justice with the word,"Blatherskite".
I enjoy reading your work.
Great Job!!!
Right on the Mark!!!
Is anyone walking precints this weekend. After all this week was a disaster.
A disaster???
Oh, yeah.
No!!!
I haven't seen the Smedley,McCall or Hernandez camps out yet!!
I seem to remember hearing that Cecilia Uber lives outside the Fillmore City limits. Maybe she should stay out of an election she can't vote in.
Gayle,
I'm confused?
Your post is titled "When "Friends" attack..."
I overlooked the bad grammer but my question to you is who's attacking who in this fillmoreblog of yours?
marc o: I don't get the grammar reference but if you let it go I won't talk about your spelling(grammer?).
But, the question is, "who's attacking who(whom)"?
I'm not attacking anyone. The blog is trying to discuss current issues in Fillmore and get the public's input and comments. We've had some interesting and occasionally heated discussions but I'd have to say that there's been nothing here the likes of "Friends of Fillmore" dispatches.
I have repeatedly asked that there be no name calling or cheap shots and have deleted comments that I thought went too far.
But many locals are angry and need an opportunity to vent. The recent attacks on Patti from the FOF just doesn't sit well. This is Fillmore, not Sacramento. If this is the price to pay for large scale growth projects, maybe it's not worth it.
Smurfy...
You are correct, Cecilia Uber lives on Sycamore Rd.
She can not vote for any City issues at all.
She has no business spouting off nonsense.
Clairek did include her in her list of, “Blatherskites”
Gayle..
I surely would have like to have read the comments you deleted.
When one is cornered all one can do is call names.
Who posted them??
I would like to see how low this person tried to be.
Was it Marco??
Be careful what you ask for. May I suggest you run your idea of restricting free speech past the courts first.
Walker-Washburn has supporters that do not reside in the city limits. Do you wish to limit their voice also?
For your information...
No one has the power to take anyone’s Constitutional Rights away.
Also, your comment is a bit far out there, come back down.
Gayle, we’re glad you said: “…many locals are angry and need an opportunity to vent. …” We hope you are serious. After all, doesn’t “real” dialog involve EVERYONE in the community?
We were worried Patti had gotten soft until we saw the Uber “serious repercussions” letter implying either violent or legal reprisal. We’re now convinced the old Patti is still with us. When is Patti going to threaten the friends of Fillmore? Or is she holding off because her actions are documented and factual?
Gayle, we’re glad you and Patti learned a lot about the school board, but aren’t you running for City Council? Seems odd that both of you consider the school board forum more important than the traditional and most significant public forum for City Council candidates? Is passing out cookies and punch more important than letting thousands of concerned citizens know your qualifications and ideas? Many people now have grave concerns.
About Linda’s closing statement – well delivered and well written, - by somebody else! Good job Patti.
Hugs and Kisses – Bill and Opus
Bill and Opus
Re: “Implying either violent or legal reprisal”
What are you guys smoking crack again? What letter did you read or is there some special decoder ring I should be using?
Re: Seems odd that both of you consider the school board forum more important than the traditional and most significant public forum for City Council candidates?
There is no doubt that either of you would find it odd to keep a prior commitment.
Good morning everyone,
It seems all the gremlins are coming out from the cesspool to protect candidates that want to hide their true agenda. As we all know Diane McCall is for the 700 plus homes, her rhetoric is full of misleading facts, and half truths. People , pay attention. If you want to continue with the same old city hall, then by all means , vote for Smedley, McCall or Hernandez. By voting for these individuals , you are saying the Friends of Fillmore Pac is good for Fillmore's character .
It's our call!
TODAYS WORD 10-16-2006
CONTORT- verb
* To twist , to misguide purposely.
EXAMPLES:
1. FRIENDS OF FILLMORE PAC
2. CITY HALL
3. DIANE MCCALL
4. KEN SMEDLEY
5. CECELIA CORL-UBER
6. CITY ATTORNEY-ROGER MYER
I think the kennedy's might be right on target with regards to "anna nicole smith".
McCall has no experience. This isnt a high school asb election, or is it?
Some people in this town who claim to be moral-christian high grounders seem to have some major blunders when it comes to politics.
A smear campaign is not a christian value nor is it patriotic. What do you say Mr.Conaway, Does being a mormon excuse you from Smearing , and falsely attacking a candidate's character ok? I wonder what Joseph Smith would proclaim?
re: Patti Walker' s response to Cecelia Uber.
My question to Ms. Walker is - What do you mean by "Your failure to do so may cause serious repercussions"? What are these repercussions that you speak of? I think that the voting citizens of Fillmore have a right to know how you handle character attacks. I have "grave" concerns that your wishes are to sit on a public pedestal where it is not only the right of the people to question the character of their elected officials but their responsibility to do so as well.
Bill & Opus -
All dialog has limitations. The blog is just one level to involve a segment of the community, and you seem to have found this as another place in which to express yourself. Welcome.
Me, go soft? Obviously you do not know me. What is your basis for blaming me for the lawsuits that have plagued the city? Time after time the city council was warned by the attorneys and they went ahead anyway. This is a flagrant misuse of the city funds.
If you are tired of the lawsuits, then cast your vote for Gayle and me so we can turn the city around and stop these lawsuits.
As for the school board forum, I made a commitment prior to the announcement of the forum dates. I remain true to my word. There were many “concerned citizens” at the public forum held at the Senior Center and Ken, Diane and Laurie were not present. Many people had grave concerns about that too.
It is a shame that the council and school board candidate forums were on the same date. I believe that good schools make good communities. I was not aware of the position of the 6 candidates for the board and am grateful for the opportunity to hear them express their opinions on the issues the board faces. I only wish more had attended.
And finally, I have listened to Linda’s closing statement. I too think it was well written and she did an excellent job in her delivery. While I appreciate your wanting to commend me, I know that Linda can stand on her own and does not need me or my input to express herself.
TODAY'S WORD 10-17-2006
RETROGRADE- adjective
* MOVING BACKWARDS, TO BECOME WORSE.
EXAMPLE :
1. BY RE-ELECTING KEN SMEDLEY
Tonight is the League of Women Voters forum. It will be taking place at the Four Square Church off of Sespe and Clay. As a undecided voter I would like to hear all candidates views especially Ms. McCall's, and Ms. Hernandez's. I would like to listen to their own positions (unscripted)and their solutions to Fillmore's challenges. Wouldn't this be a great way to prove McCall's critics wrong? Im sure Roger Campbell, Cecelia Corl-Uber and others of the Friends of Fillmore Pac are graciously invited to attend and also to lend their support to McCall and Hernandez to the question and answer session.
I look forward to hearing the positions of all the candidates tonight.
Has anyone seen the proof that Patti demanded from Ms Uber? Silence is golden I guess. What next public lynching of those who point out hypocracy? Or Is Ms. Uber waiting for the right moment to let the other shoe drop? We shall see this next 3 weeks should be great fun.
With all this praise about Linda Roberts and her plagerized forum closing, why don't we hear anything about her swift exit from a now defunct Fillmore business under her tutelage? And with pockets full of ill-gotten gain, no less.
I like the word ClaireK has for today. If you follow it to its end conclusion then you would vote for neither Patti or Ken because it would make the council go back to the way it was before. So who would you vote for?
McCall & Hernandez or Roberts & Hernandez or McCall & Roberts. Just food for thought !
Who are the Friends of Fillmore? You would think this group was Opus Dei with all the secrecy. Why can't anyone get a list of supporters and donations?
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Check out the Forum, "PAC Info..."
The list of past Contributors are listed on the Form 460 that is posted.
This gives us all an idea of who is behind these PAC’s.
Look at the Address.
These PAC's intentionally file late.
The sole purpose, so the Citizens of Fillmore don’t find out until it is to late.
It is pathetic, a group of elderly men, hiding behind a PAC name for numerous years here in Fillmore.
Sounds like this blog too, all of these Anonymous people.
Gayle & Patti...
Isn’t it about time we know the member’s names of these PAC’s?
“Friends Of Fillmore” and “Fillmore Citizens of Responsible Growth”.
Please, list the names.
Let the Citizens of Fillmore know who there Enemies really are.
Flyonthewall...
The Citizens of Fillmore are sick of Negative Campaigns.
Yes... I am looking forward to the next 3 weeks.
Let's see who are the mudslingers.
Dear anonymous: We're not restricting anyone's free speech and in fact, we encourage everyone to express their opinions. However, I have given warnings that no abuse or name calling will be allowed. I have let some things slip by but all of the deleted comments were made about opponents.
Patti and I are working really hard to not resort to negative politics. We have not personally attacked any other candidates and we don't want our bloggers to either.
We are informing and educating the public about the PAC's operating in Fillmore - and that is necessary since they have chosen to spend a lot of money and effort to attack Patti.
Opus 'n Bill: You do have a good point about the school board vs. chamber debate. It was not an easy decision and only time will tell if it was a good one or not. I hope that by the next election we will have a more fair, balanced and unconflicted process for these debates.
I see that Santa Paula had a joint Chamber/LWV/etc. televised debate. It was coordinated and moderated by the League and well advertised and promoted so that everyone in town knew about it. It was only necessary to have one debate. Let's work on that, shall we?
TOdays Word
Today’s Word is stupid it is like spewing a glob of contrite, contorted, camouflage covering a hemoragenous, hematoma, with an open laceration filled with sodium and hydrogen peroxide causing a sensation of extreme prejudice, immaturity and disassociation from reality based on a metamorphosis of assumption into factoids that have caused a fallacy deemed to be reality by a schizophrenic of the paranoia type that cannot understand the paradigm of how to help their candidate and not express and exude tumultuous tantrums of a 2 year old.
Gayle, say what you mean and mean what you say and stop the word of the day. It does not help your plight.
Lee and Mary Oswald
I actually like the "WORD OF THE DAY" by Claire Kennedy.
Would you have a problem if say perhaps Claire was for Smedley/McCall or Hernandez?
GET A LIFE!
I would have the same problem, I feel that we need to get back to the basics and focus on the real issues in Fillmore, not name calling, immaturity at its best, and a waste of time. The problem as I see it is that there a lot of issues in Fillmore, it is at a cross roads and we need to be focused on solving problems not generating Hilteresk hatrid.
By the way I noticed other than Friends Of Fillmore, which no can prove who they truly support only those they DO NOT SUPPORT the only campaign that is throwing trash talk around is from the Patti Walker and Gayle Washburn Crowd. Diane, not saying a word, only focusing on the issues, Ken maybe slinging a few epitaphs around, but generally again focusing on the issues. what seems to be missing here is that fact that there are more than one perspective, yet the extremes on either side (meaning friends of Fillmore and the Patti walker and Gayle Washburn side) are forgetting about the rest of the citizens in Fillmore. They presume to represent everyone when in fact they DO NOT.
Word of the day Assumption
A Noun
EEtymology Middle English, From Latin assumption, Assumptio taking up, from Latin Assumere.
1) the ataking up of a person into heaven,
2) A taking to or upon oneself
3) The act of laying claim or taking possession of something
4) ARROGANCE, Pretension
5) An assuming that something is true, a fact or statement postulate or notion that is taken for granted.
6) The taking over of another’s debt.
examples,
1, Persons that claim that they represent everyone, but only represent a certain group.
2, Causing kaos and anarchy among the masses, by presuming that assumptions are facts.
3, In sociology there is a rule, never assume and assume you are not assuming, the reason for this is to avoid mistakes and biases.
4, Be for the people of the people and by the people, do not assume that you represent the people when you do not listen to all the people and instead only focus on your particular PAC or biased representatives
Thats very interesting that you say Smedley has been all about the issues. I say too you , ARE YOU IN DENIAL THAT THE CURRENT CITY COUNCIL IS INEPT, CORRUPT AND SLIGHTLY ARROGANT? In regards to McCall, she has her rosy shades on. The city council doesnt care about us citizens (unless we are developers) so we can give that hefty donation to the Friends of Fillmore pac. They have had their time to in office to bring the people together ,but in reality they had been excessively divisive.Ill admit , no candidate is perfect or claims to be. But there are differences in opinion on how the city should be operated. At the current moment, its run like Las Vegas . Your previous comment on the negative attacks of all campaigns is quite harsh. Patti Walker and Gayle Washburn have been nothing but polite and gracious to the other candidates. Maybe the opponents of Walker/Washburn are worried that the Friends of Fillmore PAC will hurt them with their campaign.
During the Chamber Forum, the only candidate to speak out against the nasty flier of the FOF pac was Linda Roberts. I have so much respect for that woman. McCall, Hernandez and Smedley sat like sheep on cliff waitng to jump off. These individuals lost my vote right after Roberts closing statement. Im a proud supporter of Walker/Washburn.
You bring up some interesting points, but again miss the bigpicture. Prove to me that hte city council does not listen to its constituents. They may not agree with your perspective, but again they represent the entire city, prove that they are only interested in developer money. Again, if they were then they would have voted for 894 homes and not 700. What you are saying seems to be a little hypocritical.
If memory serves me correctly Ken voted against the NFSP, yet is being grouped into as a councilmen that does not listen to anyone. Diane has been focused on her campaign as well as Lori, they have made their points and stayed focused to the real issues. Patti and Gayle have been as well, However, they have not stopped or detoured, or discouraged comments by their supporters. If memory serves me Gayle and patti stated that they are apposed to these comments, but will take all the help they can get. This makes no sense.
Please do not misunderstand I am not against any one candidate, but am for Fillmore, I do not want business as usual, but WANT TO BE REPRESENTED. My opinion matters, but I realize that the opinions of others matter. The great thing about this country is that we can express our opinions and agree to dissagree, but at the same time it seems as though you feel you represent me, and you do not, when you say the city council does not listen to the citizens of Fillmore. I dissagree with the city councils decision, They simply needed to decrease the number of homes. The referandum caused even more problems by causing the NFSP to probably revert back to the orignal design of 894 and now there is a new referandum that will more than likely result in lawsuits that the tax payers have to pay for, and yet we have to pay for the water treatment plant, and over $2000.00 in bonds for the city.
I have never seen the friends of Fillmore flyer, I have only heard that it is bad. But at the same time if it is true that the friends of Fillmore are not supporting a candidate and are only NOT Supporting, in this case, two candidate then this is the same thing as what Gayle and Patti's supporters are doing to Ken, Diane, Lori, etc... Thus, who is calling the cettle black, and I personally, had a lot more faith in the intellegence and integrity of both Bayle and Patti, but allowing the smear tactics to take over their campaign by their supporters seems to be creating a campaign that has its rootes in Sacramento or Washington, Thus my point get back to the city and its citizens and stop the smearing. Take the higher road, if friends of Fillmore is stupid enough to publish crap then let them we have more important things to deal with then their feeble minds can understand, but tit-for-tat does not work, it only generates that Hitleresk sense that killed 11 million people in he 1930-through 1940.
hello I would like to know,what the vote was on hiring a traffic cop.You know,the one that hides behind trees,bulidings,ect.Does Fillmore(poverty level) really need a agressive ticket writer? Talk about when friends attack!!! I would not mind if he patroled 126 where it's dangerous.There is a lot of commuters passing by to their top paying jobs.Im sure to them it's only an inconvenience.To most of us it's a big setback for our families.Is this just a money generating machine because it's easier than growing a real tax base? Ok I have been driving 30+ years no tickets untill now.My crime? stopping one foot over limit line!4 way stop,blind corner i might add.$145.00+school= $200.00 I hope our merchants get a percentage.Is this the start of our new big city?When cities Attack hurts as much as When Friends Attack!Lets get back to our real city, do you remember it?
criminal: Sorry to hear about your ticket. After a lifetime clean record that's got to hurt.
I got a parking ticket for parking in his space in front of city hall.
I would hope that the traffic enforcement would be out on 126, out by El Dorado, which is a safety hazard for the residents trying to pull out. With cars and trucks ignoring the speed limit coming into town he would have plenty of vehicles to pull over. Or, he could pull over the gravel trucks and ensure they have their load covered.
I hope that residents don't get harrassed like this as an extra source of revenue.
Question the 126 is Highway Patrol and the city is the Sherriff right? Thus, would it be fair to say that the Sheriff's department patrols the city and Highway Patrol needs to be asked to patrol the 126 more stringently? What are your thoughts on this gayle?
Sorry I'm not Gayle.Don't be silly. Fillmore contracts with VCSD.Last time I checked El Doroado is in Fillmore City Limits. Yes MC Ticket Man does sit there with new radar gun,good place for him.126 is dangerous.There are many cars, big trucks,with many accidents I have listend to horror stories about the different kinds of tickets this guy can dream up.Nonsense tickets,Sure there in the V.C.book,but whats more important easy money or targeting speeders,unsafe drivers blowing red lights. Its all there on 126.I would not mind if we had 5 more just like him,if it would tame 126.Ido not know long you lived here.I remember a time when our police were friendly,approachable,we were so proud to have them.Did I mention they were also our helpful neighbors?Its just alot different now,Fillmore is growing OH BOY!!Oops you had a question!CHP is State, all of it.They do not take orders from you or Gayle.Their boss is Arnold.I think if our Fillmore paid sherriff were hanging out at the little red schoolhouse even you would cry foul. GOOD NIGHT1
The other interesting thing about this is even though you got a ticket and god nows we get upset when getting a ticket. But, don't you think that if you were not breaking the law that you not have received the ticket. Take responsiblity for your actions and do not blame the hard working officers that patrol our streets and highway patrol that monitors the 126, even through the city limits.
10:44...you are right.But being petty and hiding is not hard work. Otherwise you are right on!
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